msnbc takes you behind the walls of the most notorious prisons into a world of chaos and danger. now the scenes you have never seen. lock up, raw. >> for most inmate, life boils down to three words. the first it respect. >> you want to do time in prison, respect is the only thing that matters. >> the second is reputation. >> they say just because i'm doing it. >> the third is revenge. >> if you cross me, i'm going to give it to you.

i'm a good [ bleep ]. i will beat your as. >> just about every inmate story we tell on lock up revolves around the three rs. respect, reputation, and revenge. in indiana state prison, we met one inmate whose story revolved around all three. >> my eye must be going dead or something. >> during our shoot at indiana state prison, they allowed us to give cameras to express personal thoughts in the privacy of their cells. >> cephispasco. i am a confikt at the indiana

state prison. >> we learned a lot about them including reputation. >> i have done my time. i'm not a punk or any of the lesser areas of being in the prison. >> two things that were notable about him. he was always alone. i don't think i ever saw him hanging out with another inmate. he had a fixation on food. he was either talking about food or looking forward to his next meal. >> breakfast is 6:15 in the morning. chow for lunch is about 12 give or take. supper is 5:30 every day. they give us reruns. two nights in a row. i only had pork chops, i would really be going. >> he had these rituals he would do with his food. almost like he was sitting in a lounger at home. big tv tray and he would store up his food from all day and sit there and eat it happily in front of the tv.

>> this is how i sit. in the old days when i had pork chops, i had nine or ten and chips and beans and a six-pack of soda. you can eat all that? i would tear it up. only vice i got left. >> if we initially saw him as a foodie behind bars, the foodata revealed a troubled pass. >> i'm in for 60 years for murder. i killed my nephew's ex-wife. i was drunk, high on marijuana at the time. i'm not the boy i was. 20 years later, i'm a man. i live my life as a man. here i am a convict. >> he was saying he was a

convict, he was basically say his crimes were not against a child or of a sexual nature against a woman. he lives by the convict code which in prison is a big deal. >> the laws of the convict is don't respect others, you don't steal, pay your debts and never become a punk or a pitch. i have done that. my reputation is clean. >> the status as a convict was threatened by prison's complicated social structure. >> those animals are there. . >> we were interviewing him at his cell and he was awaiting and he came out to go to chow hall. i heard inmates scream out something. i wasn't sure what they said. his reaction was so severe i assume i was a major insult.

>> what? who called me that? what are you talking? you [ bleep ] say cho mo. >> that's prison slang for child molester, but it is used for anyone with a sexual offense. >> he was at the cellblock microwave preparing his evening meal. >> spaghetti. i call it wet noodles. >> at first he was reluctant to talk about the earlier confrontation. >> we will talk out there later. [ bleep ] i will talk more. i'm a murderer. i'm a convict. nobody disrespects me like that. i got some punk coming in who has been in for a little time [ bleep ] running his mouth [ bleep ]. that's fine. that gets you killed in here.

i'm a murderer. straight up convict. >> the more he tried to convince us he was a convict, the more i wondered if there was something else going on. >> a few days later, he told us what did go on the night he committed murder. >> i was at a bar drinking one night. had nine shots of whiskey and several beers and gave a ride to my sister in law or something like that. nephew's ex-wife. she lured me on to the dog town which was the river camps. we started to have sex and she backed out of it and we got into an argument and she started smacking me around and i had a temper back then. i snapped on her. i went off. i stabbed her, i broke her neck. smashed her skull in. >> he claims his rage erupted

because his victim rejected him and they never did have sex, but some of the evidence indicated otherwise. >> they're turned it into a rape trial. they did their test and there was a presence of sperm and she was partially nude. >> i heard an inmate off camera yell something. his whole persona changed. >> what are you looking at? >> i'm marking someone. >> why? >> because he just said child molester. break his neck. that's disrespect for anyone in a prison especially for a convict like me who has been down for so many years and i have a kid talking trash. i know who he is and i will

[ bleep ] find him. i will have a discussion with him. >> today? >> no, i will find him. i will wait until y'all leave. i find the guy and put him in. i don't kill no more, but i will maim him. all there is to it. >> later that night, he again recorded himself on the camera we left him. he indicated that he had exacted revenge. >> at one point i was doing an interview and a bunch of wannabe inmates started yelling choelo. these idiots had to be -- they were probably disciplined and the ways of prison etiquette. >> we checked with the authorities to see if anybody had been injured that night and there were no reports that indicated that. >> later, he shifted his

thoughts from his tormenters to his victim. >> many guys ask me why i am doing this tape. the reason why is i want to do it for my family. for rose's family. the victim. she was a good woman. a good person. snuff out that life and i'm part of it. >> signing off from the prison. good luck to us all. >> coming up -- >> if you cross me. i will give it to you. i'm a good [ bleep ]. >> one of the maricopa county jail's inmates solidifies her

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at every prisoner jail we visit, the safe management of the inmate population is the staff's number one priority. violent inmates are confined to their cells at least 23 hours a day. when movement is necessary, it's usually under close supervision and shackled at the wrists and ankles. at the maricopa county jail in phoenix, arizona, for some, even these precautions were not sufficient. here a pod that would normally hold 32 inmates was cleared in order to manage just four female inmates with violent

reputations. >> it limits their ability to threaten other staff to go after the officers. it's a very, very controlled setting. >> when i first went in, i was surprised to see there were only four inmates housed in the area. once i met them all individually, my impression quickly changed and realized there was a reason why these four women are kept away from the rest of the population. >> the four inhabit ants were well-known throughout mare cope a but none had a more notorious reputation than ro sal va. >> if you cross me, i will give it to you. i'm a good [ bleep ]. i will respect you and give you loyalty and everything in one package. if you [ bleep ] up little by little and disrespect me, i will beat your as. >> she spent the last six years in maricopa fighting a murder charge that could have earned her the death penalty. during that time she was involved in numerous assaults on

staff. >> rude dude with the attitude. that's what they call me. the officers. >> in fact she said she couldn't remember how many times she was tazed. >> my whole back, i have scars. >> this is a big one. this is where i could feel with my finger. >> i didn't care. i was here with the death penalty case. i have my family and my son and everything like that, but i just had that mentality. it's like [ bleep ] that. i will give them hell. >> sometimes you get the roses and sometimes i will get the crazy i'm going to kill you rosy. >> both could be equally dangerous. >> i want to touch it. >> the staff warned me she can draw people in. which she did on many occasions and one of the stories that is very well-known about rosie among the detention officers is she developed a personal

relationship with one of the detention officers. >> we started flirting around and i don't know. one thing led to another. i really thought she was going to set me up and working for the prosecutor. >> when she entered into a relationship with one of the jail's female detention officers, it was considered a serious breech of security. >> yeah, they wrote me up for being with an officer. that i was a danger to the facility because of her because she knew the blueprints or whatever. >> an officer and an inmate having a relationship is a tremendous issue from a security perspective. the concern is that the officer can do favors or can even potentially smuggle things in to inmates whether that's a weapon or whether that is drugs. >> they think i manipulated her. she never brought me no drugs or nothing like that. just like food and things. >> the inmates call that hooky.

that's a game for them. in the past there has been contests between her and other inmates to see if they can get an officer. >> she does have her reputation for actually sucking the officers in. getting them to play her game. it's an easy enough thing to avoid, but some people are stronger than others. >> when the relationship was discovered, the officer chose to relinquish her badge rather than turn her back on trevino. >> she moved in with my mom and raised my son. i cared about her, but i was not like -- i didn't know how serious it was until after i had her in my house with my mom. she helped my mom and dad out a lot and my son loves her. >> an inmate wants to be your friend, an officer in question believed what trevino told her. she said great, wow, i'm interested in you. gets fired and comes back to be i guess in love with this young

lady and now she is done because she no longer is an officer. >> crazy, huh. >> trevino said although the former officer is close to her family, the two of them have cooled their relationship. >> i wouldn't say we are dating no more. she went her way and i went my way. i am looking at the death penalty. i have good memories with her. >> during the final days of shooting at maricopa, rosie conditioned to prove unpredictable. after a difficult court hearing concerning her murder case, she attempted suicide. though it was quickly thwarted by jail staff. >> i was kind of shocked because she was a pretty happy person. she seemed comfortable in her environment and built a strong relationship with the three other females in her pod. >> then days later, trevino and

her lawyer reached a plea bargain that spared her the death penalty. she was sentenced to 18 years in the arizona state prison system. coming up -- >> i stabbed him in his lungs and kidneys and he basically drowned in his own blood. >> in prison for manslaughter, inmate's past can come back to haunt him. >> before i was an inmate, i was a correctional officer at the facility. how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup.

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>> in prison, we often find unusual stories can be found in the most mundane settings. that happened at the penitentiary when we met inmate daniel during his shift. >> when you do the facility laundry on a daily basis. day we do yellows and day whites and the leg irons are for security reasons. we can't run. nowhere we could go anyway.

>> he was serving time for manslaughter, but we discovered a different story. that threatened his reputation among staff and inmates alike. >> before i was an inmate, i was a correctional officer here at this facility, the penitentiary of new mexico about 13 years ago. >> an inmate who was former law enforcement will be perceived as the enemy as far as the other inmates go. it's usually a precarious situation. given the s, i thought daniel was secure. going from being a former co to an inmate in the prison where he once worked, i would have expected him to be a little more nervous, uptight, what have you. he acclimated quite well. >> the officers, some of them greeted me the same and some of them different. for the most part though, i have always gone along with people. i came to prison and ain't here

to prove a point. i am here to serve my time. >> did you run into people you knew? >> a few people and they were just pats. they call me by my last name. how did you end up here in the joint. i tell them i ended up out drinking and using drugs and alcohol and i messed up my life. >> as we continue to interview him, we learned although this was his first conviction as an adult, it was hardly his first brush with the law. >> i started stealing cars at a young age and breaking into schools and i broke into my junior high and high school. at 11 years old i was living like i was 21. >> between 13 and 18, he did time in juvenile detention centers. >> once i was 18, i got my files seal and got my living to until i was about 24.

i did do good. >> with the file sealed, he had a fresh start at life. at age 19, he was hired as a correctional officer at the penitentiary of new mexico. for him it wasn't a career. it was a steppingstone to the job he wanted. >> the reason i was a co was to get the training to work security at the casino. that's where i'm from up in northern new mexico. i knew if i came and did the academy class here and got all that training, i would have no problem getting where i wanted to go work. >> he eventually landed the casino job, but began using drugs there. he was drunk and high when he got into an argument that ended with him taking a life. >> i stabbed him in his lungs and kidneys and he basically drowned in his own blood. >> he was convicted of manslaughter along with several

other charges including resisting arrest and battery of a police officer. he soon returned to the penitentiary of new mexico, this time in a yellow jump suit. >> people say you don't live with regrets, but anyone who said that is a liar. do i regret. i hardly knew the guy and i killed him. i took a guy's that i didn't hardly know. >> his last day as a correctional officer was about five years before his first day as an inmate and hoping to stay under the radar, but he couldn't. >> they had to put daniel into protective custody. daniel abhorred this. you are perceived in a negative light if you have to live in protective custody. >> i hate it. it sucks because i'm around a lot of people that are shady. i'm not in prison because of messed upcharges like rape or child molesting.

i never ratted on someone in my life. >> here wanted to make it clear that he was being forced into protective custody by the prison, but that was not his choice. he chose to align himself with the inmates. he completely identified as an inmate. >> here recognized his past would always make his safety in prison a gamble. >> all it takes is inmate trying to get his bones or stripes. that was a chance i was willing to take. i wanted to be on the line and whatever happened happened. to me it sucks. there is the paperwork. i came back and said what did i do? i messed up my life big time. look at it now. >> coming up. >> i come oirt blasting. i'm about as hungry as a taliban

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i'm veronica de la cruz. here's what's happening. a man may have been plotting to blow up area churches. he was found in a motel room with bomb-making materials and notes about the churches. he is being held without bond. mitt romney continues his campaign swing in florida. he will be in port st. lucie tomorrow. it shows president obama with a-point lead in the state. now back to lock up. ♪

>> during our time at any prison, we meet inmate who is want to share their talents with us. more often than not, rap is the artistic expression of choice. ♪ >> with so many rappers to choose from, it's difficult to decide who makes the cut. >> i get solicited by the inmates to hear their raps they have been working on while they are incarcerated. it happens so much i developed a system for it. that is i use the associate producer jake to audition them

before hearing their raps. if jake gives them the thumbs up, i will take a listen. >> the plan first went into effect at the maricopa county jail in phoenix, arizona. >> he used me for the litmus test of whether they were good or not. i was told to come up here and i went up and there they were. two of the most interesting inmates i have ever met working on lock up. ♪ >> i was blown away. for being two different artists from two different locations, they worked well together. >> this is 45-year-old titus fisher. he was at maricopa,a waiting a

charge on a firearms charge. >> right on the toilet, you have to make your own beats. . >> fisher's cellmate is this 20-year-old. better known here as doinger. >> thompson is at maricopa appealing two murder convictions that could land him in prison for at least 32 years. >> rap has helped the two men bridge their generation gap. the cellies share one other thing in common. they are both members of the crips street gang. >> they were at very different stages in their life. cousin ice is no longer in love with the lifestyle.

>> i haven't actually went out gang banging, shooting at people because they are from cross town and all that. i haven't done that in years. i hang with my home boys and if something happened to one of the close, close ones. i will have to help retaliate. >> he was still caught up in the game and still infatuated with the romantic notion of being a gangster. >> what are do you want for your future? >> money, power, respect. top of the food chain. >> everybody is like that when they are young. they can't see the big picture yet. whatever happens happens. >> having been in and out of state prisons in california, fisher sought to share his wisdom with the younger thompson. >> i got him out of a situation he was in. he was reacting to something and i said you can't always just react. you have to slow down and think about it. he said yeah, you're right.

i am glad i didn't just do that. >> he keeps me cool. i am a hot head. i snap at somebody real quick. he keeps me out of it. >> despite the fact that there was a sort of mentor relationship, you could see cousin ice couldn't totally impart all he had learned in his years on to dooker. >> fisher told us the gang banging has changed since he was thompson's age. >> we wanted to protect ourselves side of town. none of us own nothing, but we call it our side of town. when i was 18, you heard about somebody getting shot once every three months and now it's every day somebody is getting shot. >> thompson can attest to that. he has been shot eight times. >> i am scare of death.

death's scared of me. >> he has been on the other side of a gun plenty of times. he is currently appealing murder convictions and he was charged with three additional drive by murders while we were at maricopa and he pled not guilty to the new charges. >> cousin ice! >> he asked me to do that. >> just because i am dooker. they said i did it. >> he had other choices before he took on the persona of dooker. >> he would have been a star football player. he had scholarships to colleges as a running back. he chose to do this. that's the mentality. >> i was ranked. i chose the streets over that. >> '? >> i love the streets. the streets are my pitch. >> what are excites you?

>> banging. guns and money and killing. all of it. >> to thompson's cellmate and mentor, wasting such potential is the real crime. that's something that titus fisher was determined to see not happen to his own children. he moved his family from california to arizona. that's to help him avoid a future of gang banging. >> i seen my son getting ready to start when he was 14. i got him out of here. that's another reason we moved out. i said now you can be whatever you want to be. now he is straight a's and hasn't gotten a b in years. star football player. he's on his way to do something. >> thompson also has three children. their future seems less certain. >> you don't bang, but daddy bang. >> is that what you want for him? >> he will have the same life. if he wants something else, go

ahead. >> for you it's not a negative for your son to spend time in prison? it's not a negative for you? >> no. >> in another context and another environment, it might be a parent saying to their child you don't end up being a doctor, i will still love you. with dooker, if his son was not a crip, he would still love him. ♪ >> i love that i was born into it. you are going to end up in prison or a casket, you know what i mean? >> coming up -- >> i'm part of an intimidating group. 20 or third deep, pretty big white boys. nobody challenges that. >> a gang leader with a twist. >> i was expecting this mean,

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what's your policy? >> per it's been said that inmates in maximum security prisons live lives based on the three rs. respect, reputation and revenge. the same can be said of prison gangs. >> no matter where we are filming whether it's the united states or around the world, gangs are a big problem for prisons. it's a secret society with a code of silence. when we went to a prison in colorado, limon correctional facility, a gang member seemed to be different. might have had something to do with the two officers we met there. >> those two officers are

lieutenants jim fox and andy piper. >> we are not going to quit shake you down. you better quit. >> i'm not looking for sympathy. check yourself and knock this off. maybe you can get into a program. >> they were completely in synch with each other doing their work. they were obviously very good friends as well. they were complete opposites in terms of how they looked and how they acted. their whole personas. they were extremely effective at what they did. >> what are did you do before corrections? >> worked on a ranch mostly. this was quite a culture shock to me when they drug me off the horse and put me in here. i had never seen anything like this. >> working on a ranch, what did you do? >> ropes and doctored. >> a cowboy. >> basically. >> the lieutenant had that cowboy persona on the job. he always told it like it was. >> you are not going to manipulate the system here at limon. you are going to go through the

process like every other inmate does. if that means you go in population. that's where you go. >> the lieutenant was the more gregarious while lieutenant piper was quiet. when he did speak, he was direct. >> that's never correct. >> he could be tough. you speaking? you are saying something. >> sometimes he had a dry sense of humor. >> keep him away from the ice cream. >> one of the men's specific duties was to gather intelligence on the prison's various gangs. >> we are unique in how we deal with the gangs and accepted the fact that there going to be gangs and nothing we can do about it. we try to control what they do. we use the leaders a lot to control that. they know that if there is problems out here, they can come to us and not be a snitch. part is the cloth they carry. out on the yard, there is hardly nobody out there who will walk up to a leader and call him a

snitch. the rapport we deal with, they trustis and we trust them somewhat. >> one of the gang leaders they cultivated a relationship was this man. >> they're know everything. they are little rats at this place. they know everything that goes on. >> we had been hearing about tommy for a while at limon. as the shot caller of this white supremacist gang. when we first encountered him, i was taken back. i was execing this mean, tough, hard core guy and instead it was this tommy we came to know who seemed shy and a little timid and with drawn. >> i have a pretty good heart. my mom always had foster kids and worked in a group home. i always wanted to do what she did. i always wanted to help somebody and think i can. >> during the shoot at limon, he

was brought in for questions when someone accused of him of extortion. >> watching lieutenant fox deal with tommy was interesting. they had a certain rapport. i would almost call it a professional rapport. >> come on in and have a seat. >> you want to give me your story? >> i don't really have one. this dude is trying to get out of trouble and know who is i am. >> they each seem to know what the other's boundaries were and talked in an amicable way. he was giving tommy advice on how to stay out of trouble. >> if you are doing anything, quit. lay low. you know they have a target on you. >> the good thing is they don't ask questions they know they shouldn't. they are not going to ask me what happened and why. they are going to ask if i know anything about it. they don't push me if i say no. >> appreciate it. >> the extortion investigation led fox and piper to conclude

that the inmate who made the accusation was angling for a transfer to another prison and he was cleared. holman had his share of trouble. he was originally sentenced to 30 years for assault and attempted robbery after he stabbed a man in a street fight. >> i thought it wasn't that serious. i thought if it's not murder he wasn't too bad. turns out that i stabbed him in his lung and he bled out twice and had to go through a couple of surgeries. i got attempted robbery because i was going through his pocks and i found the knife. it was his knife and took off and that was it. >> during his early years at limon, he gain a reputation for violence as well. >> when you have a 30-year sentence you have to go with a mind set that you are never going to get out and if you do, you will be an old man. you don't care about anything. that's what you are supposed to

do in prison. do heroin and fight and who gives a crap. i get a lot of that. >> he was like a tony soprano of sorts. he was very personable and likeable guy. >> i'm kind of a mama's boy. >> on the other hand, i wouldn't want to cross him. >> i'm a pretty big guy. nobody is going to call me out. i'm part of an intimidating group 20 or 30 deep of big white boys and nobody challenges that. it wasn't as hard as i thought it was going to be. >> all of them made it to the top, but the unexpected happened. he caught a break in his case. a reclassification hearing on his 30-year sentence was influenced by an unlikely source. >> the day before my hearing, this guy that i stabbed wrote a letter to the judge saying that i deserved a second chance. i was given a long time and it's not fair because of my mistake that my family had to suffer and

lose a son. it was pretty amazing. i had a lot of people that spoke at the hearing. >> the judge cut his sentence in half to 15 years. with the understanding that any violent acts in prison would restore the original 30-year sentence. with the understanding that any violent acts in prison would restore the original 30-year sentence. >> you get this whole new perspective. you get this chance at some kind of life outside of prison. >> but for holloman, nothing seems certain. >> i get my sentence cut in half when i don't deserve it. i wasn't doing anything to better myself in prison. just because i gave back all that time, you know, i'm still a convict now. and this is still my world until i get out. so, i mean, it was tough to balance that, to you know, try to do good and better myself and, you know, hope for parole or something. but at the same time, you know, stay true to how i was schooled in prison. and, you know, not kind of showing weakness and things like that. >> here's why you're in a conundrum. you certainly seem to be someone that has a lot of potential. you're a leader.

we all established that. you're smart. but you don't seem to want to give up criminal lifestyle. that's why i'm curious as to what you think is going to happen five years when you get out of here. >> well, i'll say this. i -- i'm not going to let the hope of chance of getting out soon change how i'm going to do my time now. because my reality today is this is where i'm at. when i get out, this is -- that's a different world. it will be a different life. i'll be able to do different things, learn new things. you know what i mean? but my reality is this place. so, why would i change that? i can't. the minute i do, i lose my identity. >> i was hoping for his sake that he makes the right choice because he has all the things where he could succeed on the outside. he has family support. he's a smart guy. he has a desire to change. so, we all left hoping that he was going to do the right thing. >> i can't think of tomorrow because tomorrow isn't here. i have to do things this way because, you know, this is where

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while the pursuit of the three rs of prison, respect, reputation, and revenge, seem to permeate the lives of most inmates, our trip to a serbian prison for "lockup world tour" revealed a potential fourth "r." roosters. >> we had been told that this was the prison that houses the most notorious criminals of serbia. >> but you would never know that by touring the grounds of zebala, a maximum security

prison located in the serbian countryside outside belgrade. >> they had done the grounds up beautifully and you heard birds everywhere. all you could hear were the sounds of birds, birds, birds, birds. that was very surprising to me. you couldn't escape it. >> the prison's garden-like grounds and collection of birds, including peacocks, are part of a renovation project. prison officials felt a relaxing natural environment could help their rehabilitation efforts. >> it did actually have a calmer feel than i expected. the buildup was pretty big. serbia's biggest, most notorious prison, then here i am with peacocks and birds and cats wandering around. >> in fact, when we wandered into the prison's shoe factory where inmate workers make dozens of shoes per day, the scene was more reminiscent of a disney film than a prison. >> this is our pet. >> this shoe shop was a pretty

unique area that we got to film in. and just the fact that all the shoes were being made by hand. and then, we're in the middle of a conversation with a guy. and a parakeet comes and lands on the guy's shoulder. it just -- everything combined it was just really, really unique. as a cameraman, you know, those are kind of the moments that you really look for and you enjoy filming. >> we met one inmate, however, who seemed to have a closer connection to the birds than most of the others. >> i would see this guy off in the distance. and he was surrounded by birds. he was surrounded by all different types of birds. and obviously i keyed on him because it was kind of interesting. he was interacting with the birds. and one of the staff members said, oh, yeah. he takes care of the birds, blah, blah, blah. i then dubbed him the birdman of zabela. >> rasha is serving 15 years for

murder. a crime he claims he committed in self-defense. >> translator: we have pigeons, various breeds, fancy pigeons. fantails, which are inside the cage right now. we have hens, peacocks, geese, roosters, and since recently, goslings. i feed them. i look after them. i don't allow a single bird to go missing. if a bird gets injured or ill, i report it to the administration. >> he told me that he could tell by the sounds of the birds the different species, what was going on with them. if they were fighting. if they were mating. if they, you know, were friends. he had -- he said he really felt he understood the birds and that they understood him. >> translator: it's relaxing to see all the different birds. we have a small pool for them here. and it's fun to watch them gather there, drink water, bathe, fly around. >> it was obvious he had a relationship with these birds. we were watching him interact.

they weren't frightened of him in any way. >> along with his unique relationship with the birds, rasha had a unique living situation, as well. he lived on his own, away from the other inmates. >> he had this unique situation. he lived in this little shack on the prison grounds. he didn't have to dwell on the dorms or cells. his whole job was to take care of the pump system at the prison. >> translator: this machine sometimes breaks down in this place. the other one can break down, too, when there's a lot of rain and mud. that's why i keep watch here. >> the fact that rasha, the birdman, existed on prison grounds was unique for me in my experience. he could live on his own there. he had this little hubble of a home that he created. i've never seen anything like it ever.